An In-depth Discussion of Beef with Quique Autrey (Psyche Podcast)
How to exist in the void and not be destroyed by it
I discuss the Netflix series Beef with my friend Quique Autrey, who is a therapist in Katy, TX. This is a continuation of the article I wrote here and packs a wealth of material on psychology, philosophy, and theology. Below is an outline of the discussion with the time stamp. The series is on Netflix and won three Emmy Awards so if you have not watched it, I would encourage you to do so. On this podcast episode, we talk about a variety of subjects, such as therapy, anger, depression, the Korean concept of han, artistic expression, guilt and shame culture, the Early Christian church, and embracing the void. It’s a longer episode, but well worth your while.
The Beef episode on the Psyche Podcast here.
0.0 Quique’s Introduction
4.20 The model minority trope - why it does not do any of us (especially Asian people) any favors.
20.40 The trauma and pain in Beef
24.41 “There’s more underneath” and the Korean concept of han
31.10 A discussion of George, art, and han. Art as expression of pain vs. the exploration of pain.
38.04 Shame and guilt, Eastern and Western expressions of failure
41.00 Religion and healing
51.29 “What would Christianity look like that would actually be addressing the han?”
52.20 “Solution focused therapy” - “We are naturally drawn to finding solutions to our problems, but the problem is not many of our solutions work.”
52.50 The function of the church in the Christian narratives
1.04.47 Dietrich Bonhoeffer and “religion-less” Christianity
1:09:01 Quote by Carl Jung - “One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious.” This was used by the show’s creator Lee Sung Jin.
1:15:30 “I can’t tell anyone your secrets because no one would love you.”
1:24:05 Clip from episode 10 - Living in the void and space. This is the real heart of the discussion.
1:38:26 Venn diagram between Beef and Leave the World Behind - “The Human condition.” Ernest Becker, “God’s with anuses” and Erich Fromm, “freaks of nature.”
1:50:14 The “catch 22” of self-transcendence.